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- Jack says that he goes ice fishing in the
Wissota Lake, but that lake wasn't formed
until 1917. The movie was supposed to take
place in 1912! - trisha
- Comment: Lake
wissota is a MAN MADE LAKE that was made
in 1918 by the wisconsin/minnesota power
and lighting company. - Kendra9
- When Jack is about to paint Rose's nude
portrait, he tells her to get on the bed,
and then quickly corrects himself and tells
her to get on the chair. I heard that this
was an actual slip, but that the producer
thought it sounded good in the movie so they
kept it in. - F.F.N.F.
- Jack claims to have visited the Santa Monica
Pier, which did not begin construction until
1916.
- The button on the left side of Jack's borrowed
jacket is a "Kingsdrew" button,
first made in 1922.
- It is impossible for voices to echo in the
middle of the North Atlantic unless there
is a large, flat object like a ship nearby.
- Comment: I
suppose it's possible that a large object
such as an iceberg might produce echoes.
There were a few around that night. -
Dennis
Murphy
- When Jack hands Rose the note at the dinner
table the paper is yellow. Later when the
note is read the paper is white.
- Old Rose said, "There were twenty boats
floating near by, but only one came back"
but there were actually two boats which came
back, Quartermaster Perkis in Lifeboat 4 and
5th Officer Lowe in Lifeboat 14. - I am Sick
- During the third class party, when Jack
said "I'm going to dance with her now."
his hair was down. In the next shot, when
he said "come with me" his hair
was slicked back, and when he started dancing,
his hair was down again. - lala
- Eugene Daly did not blow into the blowpipe
when he played it during Jack and Rose's steerage
dance. - Krazy
Kidd
- Correction: That
is not a goof. What Mr. Daly played were
uilleann (elbow) pipes (a traditional
Irish instrument). In essence they are
bagpipes played with a bellows filled
by pumping the elbow. He survived and
would later file a claim for $50 for their
loss. Similar pipes, possibly Daly's,
were recently salvaged from the wreck.
- munkin65
- In the first of the movie when the old rose
is looking at the television (I've heard)
that you can see the camera crew's reflection
in the television. - kate
- In the scene when they were about to hit
the iceberg, the guys are saying "hard
to port" meaning left, but the guy at
the helm is turning the wheel to his right.
- Heath and Wendy
- Comment: You
list as a goof the fact that the wheel
is turned to the right after the command
to turn hard to port. I don't think this
is a goof. My understanding is that wheel
steering on a ship was *originally* designed
to act the same way as the old-style tiller
steering, and with tiller steering, you
move the tiller to the right to turn the
ship left. At the time of the Titanic
disaster, I think wheel steering was still
done this way, though of course it has
been changed since then. - Michael
M. Welch
- Comment: Heath
and Wendy pointed out the "port"
goof. Michael M. Welch may be historically
correct in his steering wheel comment,
but it's still a major goof. The iceberg
is on the left (port) side of the ship.
The look-out yells, "Hard to port!"
The helmsman seems to comply--he doesn't
argue or question the order--but (luckily
for everyone on board) the ship turns
to the right (starboard). - Scott Miller
- Correction:
This is not a goof as the boat had already
hit the ice berg at the bow so by turning
hard to port it would flick the stern
out meaning the back end could avoid damage.
- Pete
- Comment: Here
is how I sincerely believe it went on
the real wreck: the iceberg was sighted
"right ahead" by the lookout,
and Murdoch ordered hard-a-starboard,
which is actually a command for the helmsman
to turn the wheel to his right (starboard)
until it clicked to a stop. This would
have the effect of turning the bow of
the ship to the left(port) as all ship's
wheels of the time were configured this
way. The movie goofs in that the helmsman
turns the wheel to port, and the bow swings
the SAME WAY! Also, the helmsman was inside
an enclosed wheelhouse inside the bridge,
and as such his forward visibility was
almost nil; he could not question Murdoch's
orders. So stands The Truth! (VHS) - Jhon
- Correction:
Okay, for the last time- There is no goof
in this scene WHATSOEVER!!! Do you really
think that in a film costing 200 million
dollars in which they went so far as to
make sure the patterns on the ship's china
were accurate they would get something
like 'which way the ship turned around
the iceberg' wrong?!? M.M. Welch above
points out the core of the confusion.
Namely that back then helm commands were
sometimes given in reverse. It happened,
both in the film & in real life, like
this: The iceberg was spotted. After a
few seconds Murdoch decides its a little
to the starboard (right) so he should
order the ship to port (left). He does
this by, pay attention now, shouting the
order, "HARD TO STARBOARD!"
As I said, in 1912 helm commands (especially
emergency ones like this) were often given
using the old, reverse, tillar bar-type
system. So by shouting "HARD TO STARBOARD!"
it is totally clear to the ensign at the
wheel (though totally confusing to the
movie audience) that this means TURN LEFT!
And he is shown spinning the wheel counter-clockwise
putting the ship hard to port. Jim Cameron
talked about this extensively. Almost
no one knows about the backwards helm
thing, but a lot of ordinary movie-goers
know their port from starboard. So does
he fudge history to lessen confusion during
the most important scene of the film?
No. He stayed totally accurate AND respects
the audience's intelligence by not dumbing
it down for them. - eskovan
- The Statue of Liberty's crown and torch
weren't lit in the 50's, so it's unlikely
that it was lit when the Titanic's survivors
arrived there.
- When Jack says "Thank you Molly"
and gives her the penicil, or whatever it
is, you can see one piece of hair that has
fallen out. When that one guy says something
like "You don't want to stay here with
the women, do you?" then his hair is
plastered back, again. - Libbie
- Remember that goof in Forrest Gump about
the wrong gold plated torch being in the Statue
of Liberty's hand prior to 1988 (Or whenever
the hell it was restored)? (It was restored
in 1986) Well, at the end of Titanic, Rose
looks up at the Statue and sees a gold plated
torch! Not an amber glass one like it should
be! Its only 1912! Not 1988! Hah hah hah!
You screwed up Cameron! YOU WERE ONLY OFF
BY 74 YEARS! YEAH! EAT IT!!!! Ahem. Sorry.
I didn't like that movie. - Ben
'Leonardo Hater' Harris
- Correction:
The torch in the Statue of liberty was
lit at the time, just not how it is today.
By then, gas torches were used for lighting
the big torch, and it would have actually
been tinted an amber color. - Chrisse
- When the old Rose begins her story, the
guy who does the simulation of the sinking
ship is wearing a shirt with the U.S. flag
on it. Later in the movie, he is wearing a
shirt with a happy-face with a bullet through
the forehead on it. - Dude100
- Comment: In
the goof regarding the two different shirts
of the "guy who does the simulation
of the sinking ship" (Bodine) it
is noted that his shirt changes halfway.
Upon reading the script, it becomes clear
that Rose's storytelling happens over
a period of two days. The first day Rose
talks for about two hours, and her story
reaches to the point of Cal giving her
the diamond. The second day is the rest
of the story. Obviously, by cutting the
scenes where one day ends and the other
begins, the story becomes wrapped into
one day. Well, almost... - Brad$
- After Jack is invited to have dinner with
Rose down in first class, you see Jack escorting
Rose and then Molly Brown coming up and asking
if he can escort her to. Then it cuts to the
next scene and you see Cal looking pack and
saying "sweet pea", but when you
look back you see Jack is not escorting Molly
Brown yet and he now is just starting
to take her arm - Chica
- In one of the scenes, the captain is making
tea with a tea bag when tea bags were not
used in 1912. - When the ship is sinking the
captain is standing with a cup of tea and
a tea bag which they didn't have in 1912.
- Jasmine, Libbie
- Correction:
Actually, tea bags were invented in 1908
in New York by a man name Thomas Sullivan.
He began sending tea to his buyer's in
silk bags which they began to mistakenly
steep without opening - thus the tea bag
was invented! - Lisa
P
- When the guards are looking for Rose and
Jack near the cars, they were using a torch
while torches were not invented until 1916!!!
- Jasmine
- Correction:
Eveready flashlights were available as
early as 1902. - eskovan
- When jack and Rose went back to Rose's room,
Jack looks at a picture drawn by Claude Monet.
This picture was 'Waterlilies' and was not
finished until 1923. I am pretty sure that
the Titanic sunk in 1912, so that picture
could not have been there at that point in
time. - Jasmine
- Comment: If
"Waterlilies" by Monet went
down with the ship, who's to say he didn't
paint it again. Rose would have purchased
an original. - Tombald
- Explanation:
The paintings owned by Rose (a fictional
character) were PROPS!!! Picasso's
'Les Demoiselles d'Avignon' (1907)
can be clearly identified and since
it is hanging in the entrance to the
MOMA in New York it did not sink with
the Titanic. Both 'Waterlilies' (1905)
and Picasso's painting existed at
the time of the sinking and Picasso
was just becoming well known since
the Cubism movement started with Les
Demoiselles d'Avignon in 1907. Monet
actually had a few paintings titled
'Waterlilies'. - Tracy
- The length of Roses nails noticeably change
throughout the movie. - Christie
- Comment: As
for the comment about the length of her
her nails changing noticeably throughout
the movie, I'm sure that scientifically,
nails grow in real life too over that
period of time. (o: - Tweegs
- Rose would not have been able to see the
Statue of Liberty from the angle she did from
the water. - Christie
- Near the beginning
of the movie, Jack and his foreign friend
(don't remember the name at the moment!!)
Are pointing at the dolphins in the water.
The problem with this is that they are in
the ATLANTIC Ocean, where dolphins AREN'T
because the water is too cold! - Nikki
- Comment: Someone
submitted that dolphins could not have
been seen off the bow of the boat because
they do not live in the Atlantic ocean.
In fact I have seen dolphins - a lot of
them - off of Massachusetts, Maine, and
other locations in the Atlantic. - Galahad
- Comment: In
the Atlantic Ocean those fish are called
porpoises--what we call dolphins are named
mahi-mahi on the west coast. - Tombald
- Comment: Umm...
Mahi-Mahi a dolphin? It is illegal to
eat dolphin, and yet you can eat Mahi-Mahi...
CAUSE>>>> IT'S A FISH, not
a Dolphin! :) - 4u2c
- Comment: I'm
from North Carolina, and the last time
I checked we border the Atlantic Ocean.
Right? Ok, well I've been to Atlantic
Beach (NC of course) and have been sitting
right on the beach and seen plenty of
"dolphins" "porpoises"
"mahi-mahi" whatever you want
to call them just about 300-400 yards
off shore. So, sorry your goof is actually
YOUR goof. - *MMW*Crazy8
- Comment: Altho
it's been agreed that there ARE dolphins
in the North Atlantic (and dolphins did
accompany the cable-ship Mackay Bennett
back to Halifax with the bodies it picked
up after the sinking) but the dolphins
pictured in the movie are Pacific white
sided dolphins, which would not be in
the north Atlantic. (But, hey, it made
for a great scene!) - barbydoll
- Comment: Just
a note about Mahi Mahi, Mahi Mahi is the
Hawaiian name for the fish called Dolphin
Fish. Dolphin fish and dolphins are two
completely seperate things (one's a fish
and the other is a mamal). (see http://pvs.hawaii.org/rapanui/mahimahi.html).
- Spoos
- After jack has been dressed up for the dinner
look at the reflection on the door before
the doorman opens it. The reflection shows
a man carrying what I believe is the camera
on his left with both hands. - Steven
- When rose runs up the stairs to get help
near the end of the film, the bottom half
of the coat she's wearing is totally soaked.
As soon as she starts running again the coat
just looks slightly damp. - Steven
- Everybody has seen the
movie or at least knows what happens so I
don't think I can spoil it for anyone by saying
the following. Isn't it really crap how Rose
climbs back onto the sinking Titanic? If she
had stayed on the lifeboat then she would
have survived and Jack would be on the piece
of wood at the end of the movie. Result they
both live happily ever after....together.
But no, she had to go and be the hero. Well
there you go Rose. You just killed Jack! -
Daffy
- Comment: Daffy
posted about Rose killing Jack 'cause
she did not stay in the boat but jumped
back on the ship and thus Jack could not
use that piece of wood that saved her
in the end. Well, had not Rose jumped
back on the ship, who would break the
chain tying Jack to the sinking ship?
- Alexei
Gerulaitis
- Correction:
Alexei said that if Rose had not jumped
off the life boat on to the Titanic
she would not have been there too
free Jack from the chains, but she
had already done that. Duh!! - Cerasi
- Comment: This
a comment about the one where Rose gets
back on the ship from the lifeboat to
be with Jack. If Jack did survive, he
probably would have been known as a coward
for the rest of his life; as most men
were who survived. - Bob
- I'd rather
be called a coward than being dead,
wouldn't you?
- Comment:
Actually, you're right. But Jack
seemed like an honorable man.
So instead of getting himself
on the wood, he probably would
helped another lady onto the wood,
maybe one with a baby. - Bob
- Comment:
I think Jack wanted to die and let
her have the wood because if he would
have lived 99% of all the schmucks
that went and saw the movie 8 times
wouldn't have wasted all those hours
of their lives crying and wasting
their money. Thanks... Dirty Work is the best movie ever. - tooky
- Comment: I
think that if Rose would of just moved
her fat ass over just a little bit so
Jack could get his skinny ass on that
same piece off would they would of all
lived ! :oP - Nicky
- Comment:
"Nicky" is either a Neanderthal
male chauvinist or an anorexic cow
who needs to insult beautiful full
figured women in order to make herself/himself
feel better. Kate Winslet is GORGEOUS!!!
Who says all women actresses must
be Cameron Diaz clones?? His comment
was insensitive and offensive to voluptuous
women everywhere. Broaden your horizons"Nicky"
!!! - RadGrrl
- RadGrrl, maybe you
didn't notice Nicky's smily after
her comment. It means "Don't
take it too seriously."
- Comment:
RadGrrl- you are not too bright.
Usually when you call somone a
COW you are calling them fat.
Therefore Nicky could not be an
"Anorexic cow"! - GhettoGirl
- Comment:
Leo's character did try to get on
the piece of wood with Kate but the
two of them were too heavy for the
piece of wood so Leo let her have
it. - givenup
- Comment:
Well, if they had switched off, like
having Rose be on for a couple of
mins and then let Jack on, he would
have surrvived. - Katie
- On the titanic it showed all of the smoke
staffs are going which in fact one of them
are fake and it was there to make the ship
look even. - Sham
- Comment: Regarding
the "goof" of the 4 smoking
"staffs". It is true that the
4th smoke stack was not used for engine
exhaust; however, I read that kitchen
vents were ducted out the 4th stack. So,
conceivably, smoke could come out the
4th stack. In one overhead shot you can
see that it is a different kind of smoke
coming out of the front section of the
4th stack. - jdc
- At the end of the movie, when Rose and Jack
try and get on the piece of wood, they only
try once. Anyone who has ever tried to get
two people on a raft knows it takes more than
one try to get both people on. - Amanda
- When jack is "flying" rose, the
sun sets in front of them. This is impossible.
The titanic sailed east to west, making the
front of the ship facing west. The sun sets
on the east. Oops! - casamann
- Correction:
This is in response to casamann's comment
about the sun setting in the east. Actually,
the sun sets in the west and rises in
the east. Therefore, the movie was accurate
and there was no goof. - Erin
- Correction:
In response to Erin's statement that
the movie hadn't goofed in the flying
scene, they actually did, although
not in the manner that you both have
discussed. Actually, the positioning
of the sun and the Titanic on the
day it sank would have had the setting
sun on the other side of the ship.
- Chrisse
- It is a well known fact from historians
that the titanic hit the iceberg because an
inexperienced stand in for the captain didn't
know how to avoid it, and slowed down and
turned. If they sailed straight, they would
have gone through the iceberg with the strongest
part of the ship and survived, and if they
kept their speed, they could have turned easily.
Cameron wrote in the script, though, that
the titanic simply wasn't strong enough to
turn so quickly no matter how fast they were
going. Don't blame the titanic, Cameron! Do
your research! - casamann
- Comment: Casamann
needs to do some homework. With any historical
event, "what-if's" (i.e. what
if the titanic had reduced speed, or what
if there were more life boats.) are inevitable.
However, in this case, he is wrong. For
one, it was not an inexperienced watchman
but one of the ship's mates, who did everything
in his power to correct the situation.
As well, it's rather absurd to assume
the titanic could have gone straight through
the iceberg since. after, it was much
larger underneath the surface. What I'm
trying to say, I guess, is this was not
a movie goof but rather a "what if".
- Crash
- Correction:
Titanic turned slowly because it's rudder
was too small. And computer simulations
have shown that had Titanic plowed head
first into the iceberg the hull would
have buckled, many many more riveted plates
would have popped and the keel likely
would have broken. The ship would have
sank in about 15 minutes killing nearly
everyone. - eskovan
- Correction:
Titanic's rudder was actually only
about 5% too small for its size. Titanic
was simply going too fast for the
conditions and there was no way to
avoid a collision. Mr. Murdoch did
not hit the iceberg straight on because
he was attempting to avoid a collision
altogether. It is debatable whether
the Titanic would have better survived
a head-on collision; most theories
show that 45-100 people would have
died but that the ship would have
remained watertight (the Titanic was
designed, after all, to withstand
a collision with another ship). Mr.
Murdoch made the right decision from
his point as he had to choose between
attempting to miss the iceberg or
killing 100 individuals and destroying
a brand new ship. - bsoft
- When the titanic sinks into the ocean, jack
says that the suction will suck them down
for a long time. As you can see, the same
happens to the chef whom rose (Winslet) looks
at while they are sinking. In fact, there
was hardly any suction. In fact, the real
chef who was actually there when the boat
sank under didn't even get his head wet! -
casamann
- Comment: Casaman
may be correct about the chef, but whenever
a ship sinks it creates a vacuum due to
air vacating the holds of the ship, thus
forcing water into the compartments. So
no matter what there was/is suction, it
just may not have been as severe as the
movie made it seem. - Kozmo
- Just before hitting the 'berg, the first
officer yells for 'hard to starboard,' yet
the ship begins a slow turn to port. Later,
he orders a 'hard to port' to try to get around
it better. He even tells the captain that
he ordered a starboard turn and a port-round.
Yet, the original turn is the port (left)
and the ship ended up in a starboard-round.
I believe they simply got their terminology
mixed up, rather than there being confusion
about early rudders and helm controls (opposite
actions) as mentioned elsewhere in this 'goofs'
list. - Phil
- Maybe this isn't a goof but when Rose is
wading through all the water to rescue Jack
and electrical wires are in water wouldn't
she have been electrocuted? - brownie
- When Jack kissed Rose's hand, he said that
he saw that on Nickelodeon, when in fact,
TV wasn't even invented at that point in time!
- Zeke
- Correction:
Someone mentioned Jack saying he'd "seen
it on Nickelodeon." Well, you're
right--the cable channel wasn't around
back then but nickelodeons were. Nickelodeons
were $.05 movie houses. - miglet
- Comment: Didn't
Jack say that he saw it IN a Nickelodeon
once? I could swear that he said IN.
- Correction:
When Jack kisses Roses hand and says he
saw it on a nickelodeon once what he's
actually talking about is a Nickel Odeon;
a short film that cost a nickel. - Angel-kiss
- When Rose and Jack are walking around the
ship, at one point there is a house on a hill
behind Jack's shoulder. - Tish
- In the scenes that show the deck of the
bow, the skylight for the crew's galley can
be seen on the starboard side of the ship.
In actuality, this was located on the port
side. (That's left to you landlubbers!) -
skidfin
- Comment: The
reason that the crews gally was on the
wrong side was that the director had made
the mistake of building the ship at the
port on the wrong side during the movie,
so there was no way that they could turn
it around. So when the filmed the shot
they later had to flip it around. Therefore
the crew gally was filmed on the wrong
side. - Kendra
- In the elevator scene where Rose (Winslet)
gets made at Zane's "bodyguard"
guy she gives him the finger, however I find
it hard to believe people used the finger
in 1912! Especially in a fortune 500 group
which composed most of the passengers in that
area of the ship. - BoilerMaker0007
- Correction:
I must correct you! Holding up your middle
finger as a sign of contempt has stayed
with us seemingly forever. It came from
ancient Greek masters inserting their
middle fingers into their slaves' arseholes
to assert their superiority. I don't think
we suddenly discovered all this post-1912!
It has come to us since those times as
a way of saying: "I rule over you!"
- Jagannatha
- Correction:
I would just like to correct the comment
about people not using "the finger"
in 1912. It actually comes from a war
in (I think it was) the 1800's. When (let's
call them) "side one" captured
someone from the other country (side two)
they'd cut their middle fingers off, therefore
preventing them from drawing their bows
(and arrows) which were made of Yew, a
type of wood. Members of "team two"
would mock "team one" by sticking
up their middle fingers and yelling "See?
I can still pluck Yew!" Eventually,
men dropped the "pl" sound,
changing it into a "f", and
that is where they got the phrase "F***
You" and the raising of the middle
finger! - bacherz
- When Rose is floating on the piece of wood,
she is not wearing Cals' coat he gave her
on deck after seeing she did not have hers.
The coat had the diamond in the pocket. Later,
when old Rose remembers finding the diamond
in the coat pocket, she is seen on the Carpathia
as young Rose pulling it out of her pocket.
Where was the coat as the ship went down and
when she was floating on the wood?? - missnormadesmond
- Correction:
I stand corrected-Rose DOES have on the
coat Cal gave her when she is floating
on the piece of wood--My mistake! - missnormadesmond
- When Jack and Rose are on the boat deck
you can see in the background the breakers
on the beach as the filming took place at
Rosarito Beach Mexico. - Dick
- When Rose goes to get the ax, she smashes
the bottom part of the glass with the hose,
then the top part. When she pulls the ax out
of the container the bottom glass is back,
even though she completely shattered it! -
Joe Skakos
- As everyone knows the titanic struck the
iceberg at 11:40pm; sank around 2:30am. So
why when rose, and jack are running through
the partially submerged first class dining
saloon sunshine is coming into the windows---this
is right after cal, (Billy Zane) got done
shooting at them with his manservant's gun.
- Ron,
(Mr. Titanic)
- Comment: I
doubt they would make such a huge mistake,
it was probably just meant to be lights.
- kyara
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